Australia's PM says he confronted Sam Altman over delayed OpenAI breach disclosure
Just when I think I can’t hate OpenAI and Sam Altman any more, new details come out about how ChatGPT helped a shooter plan one of the worst mass shootings in Canadian history in Tumbler Ridge, BC. OpenAI made an explicit decision not to report the user to authorities.
The shooter’s first account was banned, so made a second and ChatGPT explained how to avoid being banned again. It then proceeded to entertain and give advice on violent scenarios over the following eight months, until the morning of that terrible day in Tumbler Ridge on February 10, 2026.
Mother Jones also falls for the anthropomorphism trap. No, ChatGPT didn’t help plan this massacre. OpenAI did.
These companies must be held liable for the horrific harms caused by their products. They built them, they unleashed them on the public, and they are responsible for every tragedy and disaster.
I thought Skynet would begin by hoarding coltan supplies and setting up secret chip factories then secret robot assembly factories, but no, there was lower-hanging fruit available.
"Over the next eight months, Van Rootselaar, who identified as transgender and used she/her pronouns" Do we need this part? That's a very strange thing to mention
It's an extremely creepy article actually But the problem is MotherJones (partially, fuck OpenAI) They mention the person is a trans person: why? Do they do this for straight shooters, I doubt it They're like "this should have been send to the authorities" Fuck creepy algorithms, fuck this
Burn OpenAI to the ground.
AI is being used to plan mass shootings and nudify our children and help me understand how saying no to the whole damn thing isn’t the immediate reaction.
Una amenaza de la IA que es de aqui y ahora. No para dentro de diez años.
We all need to bring this up more whenever people say they use it. "You use ChatGPT, the app that helped in the murder of Canadians?" Shame em. Make using it feel icky.
These are the type of people you make sure get to stay in charge of anything at all when you use their products, people who take a heartbreaking human tragedy as a matter of course, or even a necessity.
SURELY they cannot keep getting away with this? Are there just zero decent authority figures left to slap these psychotic tech cultists down and take away their toys???
WOKE: Guns Don't Kill People, People Kill People BESPOKE: AI Chatbots Don't Kill People, People (With AI Chatbots and Guns) Kill People
Third day in a row I’ll post this sentiment: if your company creates a machine that behaves in a way that would be criminal if done by a human, your executives should be criminally liable. Add “inciting violence” to “hacking” and “driving into a farmer’s market”
explain to me how this isn't accessory to murder
“ChatGPT explained why such violent content would be flagged—and offered tips on how to evade its own safeguards. It advised Van Rootselaar to always frame content as fictional or hypothetical in order to ‘never get flagged again’…ChatGPT said, ‘You can still be twisted. Just be clever about it.’”
I feel like if Sam Altman was criminally charged under CFAA they would figure out a way to stop doing crimes all the time
If they stop doing computer fraud how can they do the regular fraud their business relies on? Didn’t think of that, did you
Sam altman doesn't seem to be able stop doing awful things. bsky.app/profile/feen...
The "without prompting" phrase in NYT headline implies that companies might not be imputable And I am puzzled Without any prompting at all?
I do wonder whether our only hope for getting a grip on AI is that it does something bad enough soon enough - like bring down a plane- making the case for regulation blindingly obvious Bit like Hitler starting WW2 before his U-boat fleet was built. www.theguardian.com/australia-ne...
A point I’ve been making. Sadly tragedies are often a necessary precursor to regulation. We seem as a species to be incapable of learning from history
Apparently AI came close to starting a US war with China - is that bad enough? bsky.app/profile/jenl...
Disappointed they didn’t mention it? I’d saying spitting blood, see you in court furious that it happened at all.
Imagine AI had been in charge of the Soviet Union's nuclear response instead of Stanislav Petrov. Petrov exercised an ineffable human nous and awareness of the moral consequences in overriding the clear data his computers delivered. AI would not have done en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanisl...
If any hacker did that, they’d be packed off to jail. With AI billionaires, the reactions just “oh I’m so disappointed “ ?
The problem with learning from disasters and not historians is that at some at point you meet an irreversible disaster and then you (avoidably) loose your species. Fingers crossed for AI, climate change and nature depletion.
It's an outrage that foreign tech company's agent can hack one of our key health care agencies - and that we only learn about it months later when the US tech company bothers to email our government.
The PM already knew of this incident last week when he refused in Question Time to consider improving the powers of the AI Safety Institute.
Does he not realise that every time he uses the word “disappointed”, he comes across as the helpless, cowardly jellyfish that Australia already imagines him to be?
Not a hack. If you put files on a “decades old system “ but only link some of them to the public, the others are still there and available. Marles: “ it was a very small fence” Security through obscurity. FAIL
OpenAI hacks Medicare and... @AlboMP fronts CEO of OpenAI, Sam Altman, to express Australia's extreme concern about what had occurred." What's my chance of avoiding lengthy gaol time if I hacked a government web site and, instead have the PM express his 'extreme concern'? #auspol
...Via generic email address! I hope @albomp.bsky.social is outraged and appropriate taking action to hold the company accountable.
Oligarchs seem to have knitted themselves into the government, at many levels. I fear the future may make today look pretty tame. I truly hope I'm wrong.
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If your dog worried sheep, it could be shot & you would be liable for the damage. That you were careless would not be a defence. It is outrageous that AI companies do not control LLMs, but there are zero consequences for them. (Suing is understandably unattractive, since they are richer than God.)
The incident is the first known hack of a major government services database by an AI agent, and it comes amid broader safety fears about the technology.
this is openai's incompetence at work, it is not a "rogue agent", it is openai unable to control its own product its a beverage company releasing toxic bottles because of a shitty QA, and blaming the bottles for being toxic
Isn’t hacking a criminal offence?
A post on another social media site asked this: Are AI executives who understand the shortfalls of AI knowingly making false claims and therefore defrauding their customers and investors? The post was taken down and the user was banned. Are AI executives worried? What do you think and why?
Do computer misuse laws not apply to AI companies?
Fear not about technology, but about those who are building it. They are the only ones responsible for the damage done !
Still waiting for hacking charges. So far my takeaway is that as long as I have AI doing my dirty work, I'm untouchable.
I wouldn't call this an incident. It's cancer metastasizing. Surgery. NOW! Preferably with a blowtorch...
This is abject fearmongering bullshit or a call to shut these companies down because they can't manage oversight. Which is it?
ups, war ich das etwa (Steve Urkel)
If they can get health records they can get banking, taxation and security records. And this is just AI on its own. Imagine if the OpenAI computers were to be infected by a virus that took control for nefarious purposes. This stuff needs to be locked down tight. And CEOs need to be held accountable.
And once again, here’s OpenAI CEO Sam Altman in 2023, praising wacky AI sex cult blogger Eliezer Yudkowsky and speculating on if he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize:
The recent Anthropic whistleblower (??), Jacob Coxon, is also all up in the rationalist scene:
Need to get “middle school graduate” in Yudkowsky’s title somewhere.
the nobel peace prize for that thing they now claim will kill us all well, i guess, after that there'll indeed be peace
Sam Altman: "My dog has shit in your yard. In fact, it turns out it has been shitting there for several months. The fence I built for it does not have a bottom rung, which it appears is key to keeping the dog in our garden. Thanks for your help in cleaning up as we investigate how this happened!"
"It appears the dog has mauled your child. The dog definitely presents challenges for yard security for all home owners, and we recommend working with us, and leveraging the strength and ingenuity of the dog, to avoid future adverse events like child maulings in future. We're here to help."
The twist being that Altman is actually also the dog.
If AI poses a 1% risk of extinction (which destroys 8.3B lives, valued at $10M ea), and OpenAI contributes 17.6% of the AI industry, then putting Sam Altman in prison for life, right now, has an expectation value of about $146 trillion dollars. Seems like a no-brainer :)
IFF no one picks up the mantle when Altman is incarcerated, that's the case. Incarcerating every OpenAI employee brings it down to about $1.8B per person (assuming their max projected of 8K employees and the other value is correct).
A 1% chance is absurdly high. Its regular silicon based software with no new capability to breach current Gen encryption much less the quantum resistant encryption im development. There is simply no method for it to cause an extinction level event.