Vice President JD Vance calls out Sen. Lindsey Graham on live TV
Lindsey Graham puts the Iran deal squarely on the shoulders of JD Vance, possibly positioning Vance to become the subject of a stab-in-the-back myth to excuse Trump’s foreign policy failure:
The White House is also making Vance the face of the deal in the eyes of the public:
*See Last line. Suddenly Congress is trying to be relevant again? A day late and billions short aren’t they?
lindsey graham is up for reelection, this year, in south carolina. he is trying stake out a position that is against the war, but not anti-trump. in other words, he is revealing his weakness.
It's weird Graham thinks Congress needs to sign the deal but doesn't need to sign anything to start the war or pay for the war
If it were a great agreement, the President would crawl over broken glass to sign it. No way he’d let someone else take the credit. That’s all I need to know about how good of a deal this is.
Congress needs to approve something?
It’s also interesting that he’s now concerned about what the law is. He seems to use laws as either necessary, or to be ignored, depending on his desired outcome.
G7 summit begins today. Trump announces agreement with Iran that will be “signed” Friday. The Summit ends Wednesday. Wanna bet the agreement is called off by Thursday morning?
The "under our law" part makes my eyes roll.
You can’t put lipstick on a pig, but you can put eyeliner on a Vice President.
Can we get an agreement that a negotiated deal that leads to an agreement to negotiate a deal isn't much of a deal?
If this is true, notice how Trump hasn't referred to Vance recently during these negotiations not 1 single time? There's definitely some rivalry going on between POTUS and VEEP.
Is Lyndsey Graham todays "Littlefinger" ?
JD Vance is a product of Peter Thiel, who is obsessed with Carl Schmitt. Schmitt argued that a dictator seizes power through a "state of exception"—when the rules are suspended due to some "emergency." "Sovereign is he who decides on the exception." Vance is vastly more dangerous than Trump.
Thielbilly Elegy: How Peter Thiel Created JD Vance: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRWF...
It’s hard to say! Despite his dopey presentation he did go to law school. He would understand the Lawfare strategy if not the tactical approaches to getting that done. But from a public perception perspective he’s fucking creamed corn. He wouldn’t last an hour
As clumsily prefigured by George Lucas in Star Wars prequels.
Been saying this to friends and family for a few years. Lotta blank stares. Doubt we’ll even have a staged election. The real fun to start soon.
Did they think they could prove that the protesters were paid? Did they think they had to?!
Thanks for the validation. Perhaps, because Trumps's psychopathology and behavior take up all of the oxygen in the room, the view that JD Vance is more dangerous isn't comprehensible to many, possibly most, people.
Only one problem .... NO ONE GOT PAID. That is a fantasy of the Republicans and probably a tell for them.
Well, he’d like to be more dangerous, but let’s see if anyone likes and backs him.
I really, really wish this were better understood on the left. Any assertion that Vance is or even could be more dangerous than Trump is almost always automatically dismissed and derided. Very much hating the watching-a-crash-coming-while-paralyzed part of this era.
As long as the police force and military go along...the civilised people of the shithole country named America are cooked. Look at Russia and China and tell me those folks had any chance... because 60% of uneducated pricks are enough to tank democracy.
According to Jesse Watters someone at the White House or Pentagon thought it was more important to brief him on the latest Iran deal than elected officials. Jessica Tarlov pointed out later in the same segment that Watters seemed to know more about it than Sen. Lindsey Graham.
Jesse Watters, secretary of propaganda for the Trump Regime…
Can't stand that dude. Glad someone else watched it because seeing him is bad enough. Hearing him is a form of torture.
Neither Fox News or Truth Social are mechanisms for serious governance. These are not serious people, they are propaganda clowns. Thankfully Jessica calls them out.
Jesse spouting what Trump WANTS us to think is in the ‘deal’.
Says the ugly little man with no experience in foreign policy. 🙄 He's getting snowed by the White House or the Pentagon. Whoever his source is, is full of shit.
When you make stuff up, the sky's the limit
The Iran “deal” doesn’t cover the Strait of Hormuz. Iran is still charging tolls. The text isn’t public. And JD Vance just confirmed on live TV that his own boss was lying when he declared victory. But sure “ ships, start your engines!” 🚢 #USDemocracy #Pinks newrepublic.com/post/211844/...
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Its all about Donnys blatant bigotry! After tearing up #JCPOA, weʻll never ever get another agreement thats near as complete&safe for the region & 🌏ʻs nuclear future. BUT, after all, Obama&JohnKerry achieved it, awarded NobelPeacePrize, so tiny lil Donny had to rip it up. Sad, Small, Fascism again.
The chaos is on purpose. Keep things unclear so we get exhausted and don’t care. Tax the rich Release the Epstein files Vote blue.
The Iranians won't be charging a "toll" It will be a "service fee" Problem solved.
T may not release the text domestically, but other players can.
JD Vance confirmed that we're planning to give Iran $300 billion to end this war — far more than Obama's deal was ever going to give them
I bet Kushner and the Trump family will get a big chunk of the $300b Iranian building boom American taxpayers are financing to open the Straits that Iran closed after the US-Israeli attack that US taxpayers also paid for. US oligarchs and Iran win. US prestige and taxpayers lose. Some Golden Age.
Probably to be paid for by further cuts in benefits that we all worked for. After tacking on a few trillionaire tax cuts
So the Obama deal and america spent billions, lost at least 13 service members and ruined the international oil market.
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The whole cost of this is definitely going to near half a trillion. Easily if you count all the unfrozen accounts. Which is not correct, but bullshit for bullshit.
What's a cool 300 B among friends?
"The Art of the Deal"...what a fncking moron.
It’s not even in the same ballpark. 100% Surrender
Oh? This merits an 👀 emoji re JD: “I believe it is imperative that the architect of the deal, Vice President Vance and his negotiating partners, be part of the process in presenting the final deal to Congress.”
Did the president have a constitutional obligation to go through Congress to declare war on Iran? Well nvm, because that buck has been passed to the veep and Senate Republicans — who never liked him to begin with — are gonna maybe hold his feet to the fire on this one
Wait Congress has to vote on a peace deal for a war it never approved?
Very shrewd to send the expert at eating shit to eat world historic levels of shit.
Is that a bus I see?
"Time will tell." Translation: "I have no idea what will happen next."
So . . . Congress votes on a memorandum but NOT a war? Graham can f all the way off.
Next year Sen Annie Andrews Will helping the goid citizens of SC.
Good luck with that, Mr. Graham
Vance: "I'd caution Lindsey Graham and anybody else not to believe the hardliner propaganda in Iran, but to believe what's actually in the agreement…Iran doesn't get a dime of money unless they perform their obligations."
So you’re saying that you’re giving Iran money as part of the deal?
Hmmm. That sounds like a familiar arrangement. Just a lot more dimes.
What are the chances Iran is gonna say “we aren’t performing until we get our money” ?
I’m old enough to recall how “incredibly insane it was that USA was “giving” hundreds of millions to Iran.” *of their own money
Billions of dollars, 13 lost American military, 100 dead Iran children and a loss of multiple bases and weapons to get us right back to where we were with Obama’s Iran deal, Vance isn’t fooling anyone because he is an admitted liar.
So now giving Iran cash is ok apparently.
Money for Medicaid and SNAP - slashed, money for scientific research - cut, money for education- diminished. But we have $300 billion dollars to give Iran? That’s $1,875 for every US taxpayer.
The “agreement” which is nothing more than another understanding to continue talking and which has still not been publicly released.
lol pallets of money after dropping billions for the war.
Really knucklehead?! Where are the monitors? What a choad!
I've seen more details in a fantasy football trade.
Which would imply they have made the 'agreement' available for people to read and analyze. True? Nah...
I just continue to think it’s funny that trump’s heir apparent is a mascara wearing, swamp dwelling coward with 0/10 masculinity
Believe our hardliner propaganda, not theirs.
I understand the concept of “enshitification” of life in general, but it’s impressive that the US regime has taken this to geostrategic levels by just making *everything* worse.
When Trump said there would be a complete and unconditional surrender I didn't realize at the time that he was talking about the US.