Mike Lee lashes out after Pentagon omits LDS from Christian list
Senator Mike Lee lashed out after the Pentagon removed The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from a list of recognized Christian groups in a recent policy update. Lee called the omission "repugnant" and targeted commentator Pete Hegseth for spotlighting the change. The classification matters because Pentagon lists inform Department of Defense guidance on religious recognition, which can shape chaplain services, accommodations, and how elected officials address religious inclusion in federal policy.
I find it curious that Mike Lee is now taking the position that the government should not be weighing in on matters of religious doctrine, despite joining an amicus brief in the Fifth Circuit that urged the court to uphold the Ten Commandments in public schools, now that he's on the receiving end.
Mike Lee is a big believer in "my religion should be promoted by the government" but drank so much Kool-Aid he forgot that most of his allies consider his religion to be a heretical cult.
Separation of Church and State for me, not for thee.
Well, he can't say he wasn't warned. No shortage of Establishment Clause cases over the years explaining how separation protects the -religions- as much as anyone.
Except he’s only fighting for the religion that matters to him.He’s not trying to help any other denomination that was wronged. It’s always just me, me, me.I bet if asked about any other denomination that is upset by this he’d simple respond “that’s their problem, they aren’t real Christians anyway”
It's Orwellian nightmarish that he's composed a Banned Religion list. For all their insistence that our country was based on Christianity (it wasn't), it WAS based on Religious Freedom.But it's no surprise to anyone who looked at Project 2025 that they're destroying everything. It's all right there!
No no, you misunderstand. I'm in the group that the government protects but does not bind, not the group it binds but does not protect.
Concur. I also find it appalling that he did not address the 160 plus religions that were removed. He is a situational ethicist - the outcome is only just, if it is in his favor or IAW his beliefs.
One of those "not til it happens to Me"
Here is how that works: MAGA's rule is: Don't tread on me while I am treading on you. And many MAGA politicians are so narcissistic--that they are sure they are so special that the Face Eating Leopards party they support would never eat THEIR face or the faces of ppl in their own group.
Lol "Then they came for me..." Mike Lee!
They're hypocrites. "I'm cool with it ... until it impacts me negatively." So fuck you Mike Lee.
Not surprising that a conservative suddenly discovers principles when people he cares about are being injured. He'll throw them back out the window the second someone he doesn't like is being injured instead.
I mean, it's Mike Lee. Literally nothing about him is curious (the only thing that would be curious would be if he took a thoughtful position on literally everything.) (I can only imagine Rex is turning in his grave. About literally everything his son does.)
Riding the tiger is fun while you think you're in charge.
That's not curious at all. That's modern Republicanism. Remember, their motto makes most of what they do clear. That motto: "I've got mine; F*** you." According to them, THEY can do whatever they want. YOU can't. So THEY can put their religion in your govt - but YOU can't do the same to them.
Considering I'm in one of those belief systems they took off the list, I think it's extremely hypocritical of Mike Lee. #VoteBlue
Mike Lee wants to be a Supreme Court justice so bad he turned on his own values to impress Trump hoping to get picked. Mike Lee also belongs to a cult called the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. LSD? LDS? It’s a fucking cult.
Nothing is curious about Mike Lee. He is entirely predictable.
Being a Republican means never acknowledging or empathizing with the suffering of others until that suffering is visited on you or your loved-ones directly.
I wouldn't take Lee's side on almost any other issue, but it's outrageous to begin with for the Defense department to be classifying religion as Christian or not, and compounded by refusing to include Mormons, who have always self-identified Christian, going back to Joseph Smith. ...
The same thing happened when Conservative Catholics weren't invited to Pentagon Evangelical memorial. They were "concerned."
Of course this is how it was always going to turn out.
Lifelong Utahn here. I’ve found it curious that a religion fleeing persecution to settle in Utah would forget they are still a minority religion. The MAGA base is largely evangelical and there’s definitely been beef (and accusations that Mormons aren’t Christians) for years.
It’s exhausting that I unequivocally support Mormons’ right to practice their religion free from government disfavor while at least some of them don’t support my right to not practice any religion free from government disfavor.
"why did the pilgrims leave a country that was explicitly Christian" remains the hardest question for Christian Nationalists.
It may help to simply state aloud that Mike Lee is a corrupt, self-dealing POS. He does not care AT ALL about Utahns...or anyone else, for that matter.
I grew up in Utah from six generations of nonmormon utahn. I never understood how mormons stand in the same party as Christian nationalists who are literally the same people that killed their prophet and drove them to Zion. The argument that mormons aren't Christian isn't exactly new.
Curious as in hypothetical and morally bankrupt. Yes, very curious.
was he taking that position, or just the position that Mormons are Christians and thus should be exempt from the (justified--in his view) discrimination against non-Christians?
“But… but… it wasn’t supposed to happen to me!”
The red-flag irony of Huckabee being the U.S. Ambassador to Israel & Israel thinking (apparently) that it’s acceptable.
“Religious freedom for me but not for thee.”
Exactly! Mike Lee is a huge part of the reason why Utah voted for Trump
It's never about actual principals with the GOP nowadays.
If Mike Lee thinks it's bad for Trump's admin and Trump's supporters to target Mormons, he is in fact a Senator who currently caucuses with the Republicans and is a stalwart supporter of Trump and his agenda. He could do something about this but he won't, he will choose Trump over Mormonism.
Does taking the fight to twitter mean he doesn’t have someone at the White House who will take his call?
Mike Lee should try to convince Pete Hegseth that these guys were Mormon missionaries.
He will also choose the Yellowstone Club over Mormanism & his constituents feelings about public land sales.
ICYMI, Pete Hegseth—who attends a church in the denomination founded by “Christian Nationalist” Doug Wilson—omitted the Mormon church from the Pentagon’s list of recognized Christian denominations, causing Senator Mike Lee to freak out. (Hegseth added the Mormon church after the backlash.) 1/
Because a prophet named Joe Smith is as legitimate as any other prophet, amirite?
Oh sure they’ll fight for themselves to be included but fuck everyone else right?!
He has listed Bahai as Christian ROFLMAO "The Baháʼí Faith is an independent global religion founded in 19th-century Persia (modern-day Iran) by Baháʼu'lláh." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%...
"Have you read the Book of Mormon?" - Mike Lee 😱😁
Hegseth may be dumber than dirt
Somehow I really like knowing that Sen M. Lee was freaked out over this! He deserves a lot more of them.
Mike Lee figuring out today that the Evangelicals he thought were his friends don't think he's a person and I think that's swell and I hope it continues until he resigns in shame
Would be even better if he then sold all of his material belongings and served the poor and his community, obviously, but I think he's probably doing to try to pass something very racist instead
on the one hand, I fear that we're on the precipe of an uptick in sectarianism that could lead to violence and enormous social disruption. on the other hand, blutah
I remember seeing a clip years ago during Trump 1 where Ben Shapiro and his DW co-hosts were just casually talking about "yeah we think Ben is gonna burn in hell but at least we can hope he finds Christ before it's too late" And I just...don't have much to say other than wow that's grim
Tapping my sign: these people want to go back to male WASP supremacist bigotry if we let them, and a lot of people who think they're in the club now (including those with considerable power) would find out that they are not, in fact, in the club.
Resigning in shame would require him to have a sense of shame, something I've seen no evidence of.
Boy I gotta say: not very based of him to get mad at other Christians for believing his religion is fake.
Sen Mike Lee R-UT whose brand has become hate, division & oppression gets all up in his little feelings because White Christian National SecDef Hegseth rejected his faith as worthy of recognition by the US military. I love this for Senator Lee. www.mediaite.com/media/news/r...
"And then they came for me" Mike Lee!
Mike Lee is an imbecile. Mormons fought to not be associated with any Christian’s for a century. They proved their point. 50 years later they want in cause the evangelicals are making more money than them. Mormons are a prosperity church.
Lee is a champion of Data Centers. Call his stupid ass at 202-224-3121.
Fascists, the more power they have, the more groups suddenly find themselves on the outside.
Sometimes owning the libs means fighting for representation and standing up for minority groups while also providing example after example of the minority groups contributions to the country bc when we let the govt tell us who is and isn’t worthy…wait a minute…
I'm kind of shocked he kept Brethren as it is an Anabaptist church. He probably doesn't know what that word means.
Hey Mike MAGA is letting you know that you are next.
I think Mikey is angry that Hegseth didn’t classify Mormons as a Christian denomination. Perhaps deeming Satan a wayward brother of Jesus was a bridge too far for the blackout drunkard.
Well, it ain‘t in the „Book of Mormon“, but a certain guy from iirc Gallilee is quoted (and translated) with stating: „Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you.“ Sooo… Senator Lee had it coming…
Something something "didnt think my face"
TFW the Klan and the Neo-Nazis fight. Happy Monday! Divide and conquer.
Two 💩💩 in a pissing contest. Not sure it gets ANY better than this in today's World-leading 💩-hole country...
Oh no the narrow views of the biggots are suddenly TOO narrow for this bigot? Okay
And then they come after you.
Sen Mike Lee is repugnant
Tbf hegseth and his pastor don't like the Catholic church either "Pastor Doug Wilson views the Catholic Church as a significant theological error and an apostate institution"
It’s on the list it’s just not labeled “Christian”. Bummer when the other hate mongers turn in your brand ain’t it
As much as I wish Mike Lee the worst, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are Christians and the evangelicals trolling him in his mentions are the monsters at the end of the Christian nationalist bedtime story. And I know leopards are eating his face too but man it's bleak out there.
The Protestant tradition claiming neither Catholics nor LDS are Christians has a long, sordid history. OTOH, Mike Lee suffering is schadenfreude.
If it's any consolation, my Unitarian Universalist stepkid is considering bringing a lawsuit against his Louisiana university inisting that if the 10 commandments must be posted in his classrooms, the UU JETPIG principles must also be posted. The kids are alright.
The thing about “based,” you can never break character and care about something. I wish he would learn something from this.
Is M. Lee learning about the Parable of the Scorpion and the Frog?
If the government can decide who "counts" then no one counts. For any issue.
As far as I can tell, *none* of them are Christians.
This was always going to happen. Once the Evangelical Protestant, Christian nationalists felt a whiff of power, they were always going to drive out their former allies who are not "real Christians" in their view. First the Jews, then Mormons, next up are the Catholics.
Mike Lee is an imbecile. Mormons fought to not be associated with any Christian’s for a century. They proved their point. 50 years later they want in cause the evangelicals are making more money than them. Mormons are a prosperity church.
Christians would take down the huge complex of prisons for migrants they are building. Instead they suggest naming it Auschwitz 2 ? Shut up Mike Lee. Act like Jesus and then maybe.
But he has no problem depleting his States resources for Canadian O’Leary to build his data center.