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Senator Chris Van Hollen publicly defended Maine Democratic Senate candidate Graham Platner after revelations that Platner has a Nazi-linked tattoo. Van Hollen said Platner's PTSD and the need for "second chances" justify standing by him despite the tattoo and earlier controversial remarks. The endorsement from a senior Democratic senator raises questions about candidate vetting and messaging in a competitive Maine Senate contest.
I think that I do not consider it being a function of the "Bluesky bubble" that people might consider a Nazi tattoo disqualifying.
I see the pro-Platner bots and trolls are teeming; girl, Im not even American, I just think a Nazi tattoo is disqualifying; on any politician, anywhere. You can vote for your pet Nazi, and live your life.
I know I'm old because I remember a time when a person would be *immediately* dropped as a candidate the moment the party heads learned about a Nazi tattoo. And it would be so swift & thorough a dropping that no one would remember the guy's name. He'd be a niche trivia answer.
Some peeps will be claiming we need ways to disagree. And then when they encounter disagreement they’ll call those disagreeing a huddle in a bubble.
Not a bunch of you showing up to tell me why you support this candidate in the comments: do as you please, I really do not care. My post was directly addressing the dismissive nature of Sagal's claim that it was a "Bubble" which produces critiques of Pl*tner.
I'm tempted to pin this for a while...
Ah, yes, the old men at my synagogue, part of the BlueSky bubble.
Wait! Wait! Don't tell me! WHITE PEOPLE WILL EXCUSE ANYTHING!
Peter also spent many many months defending and supporting Olivia Nuzzi soooo he can have a seat actually.
Sagal said people canceling their Washington Post subscriptions is "How We Got Trump." It's what Trump wants, we're betraying journalists, etc. Weapons-grade cynical smugness, exacerbated by the fact that he seems to think he's a distinguished media theorist by virtue of his game show being on NPR.
“Well, this has been depressing,” feels pretty accurate, but Peter and I mean different things by “this,” I guess. (I really don’t understand the willful disregard of a Totenkopf tattoo and recent ableist language.)
Every time he pops up in my feed, it's pushing the absolute worst takes, defending the absolute worst people
How exactly is it being in a "bubble" to say "damn, the voters in Maine are potentially screwing up a good chance to beat Susan Collins and i wish they would reconsider"? Folks are allowed to have different opinions on a topic.
I don't feel bad about it either. I don't care that he's popular. I'm too old to care about what's popular. People don't like Nazi tattoos. Look at how much everyone hates Hegseth and multiply that.
It's weird to me, because Bluesky is actually the main place I *do* see how eager certain sorts of Democrat are to embrace an obvious Strasserite.
If that is now a function of the "Bluesky bubble", we are cooked.
"Bluesky bubble" = The last remnants of human decency. I don't even mean it facetiously. Of course, there are decent people not on Bluesky or any social media (or maybe who haven't left X yet though I'm not sure). But standards have dropped and what should be disqualifying doesn't faze many people
A while back, he was whining about how posting is pointless. I think I have him blocked, but he has a gazillion followers. Bad take after bad take
"Bluesky bubble" is pretty much journalist-speak for "I thought I'd be congratulated for a clever take but instead people were mean to me".
Okay Peter Sagal, where in Maine were you? What was the average age of the people you spoke with? And please, define for us what precisely do you mean by "flaws"? Were said "flaws" defined for these people you allegedly spoke with?
Nobody said anything like that he's "history's greatest monster." Guys walking around with Nazi tattoos (and etc.) is a problem, even when we vote for them in order to defeat ghouls and wantwits. (Also, did @volts.wtf endorse Sagal's "bubble" talk there?).
Media bubble has rotted Peter's brain
I think anyone who hosts Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me should be fired into the sun, really
are… are they saying that wanting someone who didn’t have a “Nazi phase” or whatever is … a “purity test” now too or something? like, getting into one of the most awful, basically cannibalistic political parties just because some algorithm pushed it at you is forgivable? we are doomed
Establishment Democrats, as they are wont to do, screwed up, and it looks like the Nazi tattoo guy Is going to win the primary. Oh well, look at it this way I guess: between Graham Platner and Susan Collins, Platner is the Fuhrer of two evils.
They really couldn't find anyone better than an ex-nazi? Well, I guess they are a really dumb state. I feel bad for any Jewish, Black and Brown people who are watching this happen. I would not feel safe in that state anymore.
Hey Frank, watch Platner's interview with Medhi Hasan and then judge the guy. Or do you just want to inflexibly hold on to a first impression you heard someone else talk about?
Bernie fucking Sanders worked to get this guy the nomination and you're still reflexively blaming Democrats.
Maine Kampf and Miss Very Concerned
i'm trying to think about the silver lining regardless of the outcome: if platner wins collins isn't in the senate anymore, and if collins wins democrats might learn a valuable lesson about letting a guy who etched nazi iconography into his flesh run for senate under their banner
Frank, Platner is much more than his offensive tattoo and stupid Reddit comments. He’s a good example of a person on a positive life journey who genuinely appears to concerned for the best interests of his fellow Mainers and Americans. I was wary about him after the tattoo BS but he won me over.
Vote blue no matter who instead of crying Nazi when you don’t get your way
No nazi tattoos No sexual abuse history No photos/videos in blackface Seems like three pretty simple standards to hold some to for a Senate position.
I'm hoping he'll be the opposite of what Fetterman turned out to be.
Graham Platner, the guy with the Nazi skull & crossbones tattoo?
Graham Platner, the guy with this platform. Read it. The whole thing. www.grahamforsenate.com
The Nazi Totenkopf symbol, no less. The one he got in Croatia, where that particular symbol is and had been banned by law.
I'm going to become one of those "we need to get rid of the Democratic Party and make our own party" people, but because of this bullshit specifically
getting a Nazi tattoo and not "getting rid of it" until last year despite admitting to knowing what it was and then retracting your apology and saying you weren't sorry is not a "mistake when you were younger," you absolute corded Bluetooth device. EVERY MISTAKE ever was made by a younger you.
I was about to post something about this a few minutes ago, but I was too mad. Black boys of 14 who are unarmed and gunned down by cops get the "no angel" treatment. This guy kept a Nazi tattoo, and signed up to work for Erik Pence just a few years ago. Just for fuck sake, white people.
Corded Bluetooth device? Another patented Tyler banger.
"you absolute corded Bluetooth device" - just mind-bogglingly savage
Most of the people you school about stuff like this just show up as “blocked” for me which means the system is working as intended. 🤣
I think the thing that strikes me about all the "he just made a mistake" people is like... They're so cheap to buy off? Like, I *want* to think he's reformed and like... I dunno, I feel like doing literally anything material to prove that should be part of this. Otherwise, you're just an easy mark.
the man literally chose to be a mercenary the only question is are his votes already sold or will he be auctioning them off one at a time?
bUt SHe's sO oLD yeah, but no Nazi tattoo, no rape victims should “take some responsibility for themselves and not get so f—-ked up they wind up having sex with someone they don’t mean to?”, no hanging out with guys like "pro-Hitler" candidate Richard Ward. Be well, Mainers. Good luck.
Yeah. And it's not just Mainers that are impacted. If this guy is elected, the media and Rs will make sure that "Dems Elect Nazis" sticks to us forevermore. Tbf, we are sending the message of "Our Nazis ok, their Nazis not ok." 🤢🤮
One of the infuriating things is that other, better, progressive candidates were *right there* but never caught the media's attention
This looks like SC continuing to elect Lindsey Graham over Jaime Harrison.