Valve eyes ARM architecture for future Steam Machines
*whisper* I'm gonna be honest its a little funny seeing discourse pivot from "if valve doesn't subsidize the steam machine the pc market will die and everyone will just buy consoles" to "why would anyone buy consoles instead of pc if there's no physocal releases anymore" within the span of a week
Aura/Moom65There is no higher ground to run to at this point
SpaceTalk1It's another "Valve wins by doing nothing" scenario, but no in this case it's actually Nintendo They already dominate Japan, after all, so if the Switch gets like four live service omnigames Sony's gonna be a smoking crater Nishino's job may depend on whether Nintendo ever picks up Mihoyo's calls
I don’t mean to keep bringing this up but… I kinda think the Sony physical news just made the argument for a steam machine more inviting. If there’s no physical anymore and your locked to Sonys dynamic pricing at full £70 price… we might as well just go to steam where the games are so much cheaper!
Haysey_Draws Sleepy Teachers38‘But it’s not as powerful as a PS5’ my friends, with hardware costing so fucking much right now, very few devs will be making graphics heavy titles apart from first party Sony titles, and just look how many the PS5 has had so far!
therealWokeKong7Only a company as braindead as Sony could make the $1,000 Steam Machine look good in comparison to what I can only imagine is gonna be a $1500 PS6 with like 3 exclusives over its entire lifespan
Lucky Weasel3My worry is... Are we buying the Games or the LICENSE when we buy games on steam. A lot of digital sales call it a "License to the product" and I worry Steam either does that or will follow.
Blankie 18+꩜2And have frequent sales. And has smooth transition between it and other devices like desktops, decks, and eventually frames. And has 1 + a billion times more good will with their users. The Steam Machine is at a bad price for a console, but as a funny shaped COMPUTER, I don't think it's that bad.
mikey 🐸2Yep, and don't forgot that most people already have a huge steam library ready to go!
largestandusbsky.bsky.social1True, I returned to pc months before the pandemic, but I kept playing on ps too, I suppose ps5 will be my last Sony console, my brother and I gonna full migrate to pc and maintain, scavenge and fix old tech now. Sounds like a neat extension to the hobby.
Let's say PS6 costs ~$800. It's all-digital and a walled-garden. Suddenly a $1000 Steam Machine isn't so crazy. All-digital, open, and *a full desktop PC*. Physical media production is maybe the #1 reason smaller manufacturers can't compete. Giving it up is crazy.
Proto12Steam Machine is just 1 example. Other devices will come, suddenly the door is open to compete. Who will pick up the slack and fill store shelves? IMO we're seeing the unsustainable trajectory of the western AAA games business slam headfirst into an economy rough patch, and it's not pretty.
Illico Corvum2Dont forgot about the recent movies and the likes that was removed from Playstation despite using the term purchase. Didn't they also increase the price of the subscription too?
Eepy Rose2$1000 for a Steam Machine (a system with a weaker GPU than the PS5) in a hypothetical where the PS6 is $800 wouldn't make sense if you just want a box to play games on. I think if you value the other things a PC can do so much, then you'd be better off buying a $1000 PC you can easily upgrade.
Doko Gorilla (Dokoro)2And note that the other good thing about a PC in general, for that matter, is that you are NOT beholden to ONLY the platform holder's digital storefront. This is a large part of why Sony's ending of physical media hurts so much. Once all other solutions are gone, all of which are physical, you'll..
Silentpaw1If there is a future PS6, will be 900 or more than 1k anyway, because there will be AI still around and there is still the RAM outage still running, and price wouldn't go down for some years.
Thanks Sony, thanks Microsoft... now I'm waiting for Valve to do something new and evil, like declare that the Steam Machine relies on a cloud service built with harvested bunny rabbit souls.
Pete3Yep. No physical media? Just won't upgrade. Normally I buy a second hand console, some new, and many second hand games. Game backlog is decades long and I have PCs, I don't need the new offerings.
Peter Cook2It's coming that we will be fully paying for everything and not owning anything!
Matneee2The physical media thing is interesting. From my POV physical games stopped shipping a decade ago anyway. All buying a disc really gets you is a license to install the actual finished game through a day1 patch D/L anyway. I didn't see the point in spending £100 more on a PS5 with a blu-ray drive...
Ryan Allan2Now I have the Endgame song from Doom with the bunny in my head. Thanks. (Seriously, thanks! It's a fantastic song.)
phx-renegade.bsky.social2The trouble with the price rises on consoles, PC's, anything that needs RAM is that people are less likely to upgrade leaving the second hand market in tatters too. £1,000 for a console? Nah, I'll stick with my PS4 thanks.
lvl58designs.bsky.social1I'm just done with game companies. I die devs are where it's at now. 🤦♂️
i ordered that steam computer. its gonna be my bird migration stream machine, since i plan on traveling a lot<3 also I'll try out some dual pc setup using it too. for anyone whos like "chai you can build your own for cheaper!" im old, lazy, tired. just gimme the linux steamtendo gabecube 🦩⚰️
Mahogany1honestly the sort of customer support you're gonna get is more than worth it. Not having to deal with that shit yourself is so valuable
System of a Vamp1the form factor *is* ideal for traveling
ShinTheDerg 🐉 🔜 BLFC '261There's also something to be said about Valve's customer support. I've seen how much Valve supports any hardware issues with the Steam Deck and I expect they'll give the same level of support for the Steam Machine. That's not something you get from a custom-built PC!
Apollo 🔞1Customer support and all that are valid reasons for buying something pre built.
It was kinda funny watching people scream that the Steam Machine was overpriced. They have no idea how bad things are right now. RAM prices are projected to *increase* in the coming months, if a PlayStation 6 launches before 2028, it’s going to cost like $1500…and that’s with Sony subsidizing!
LJ Katz15I mean, no way it launches before 2028. The whole point of this is to introduce a PS6 that is all digital from day one.
Tumbleweed4Steam Machine is overpriced looking at the current prices for both DIY and prebuilt, and its not like its prices will remain static if costs increase
SavvySpark1Yeah it’s not the poor corporations fault 😭
