Darren Jones rules out Labour leadership challenge
Darren Jones goes all-in for a Burnham coronation. Labour will end up regretting it if there’s no contest.
Lord O'Neill, expected to be Burnham's chief economic adviser, told Sky that if Burnham doesn't demonstrate proper economic change in six months he will be on his knees.
I agree. I understand the desire not to draw things out bc government is essentially at a standstill until a new PM is announced. But not challenging Burnham to give a clear argument regarding his policies & how he will enact them, means the electorate are left not knowing what he really stands for.
I've got an awful feeling that large swathes of people who are presently overjoyed with Burnham's arrival are, in 6 to 12 months, going to be shouting, 'hang on, we didn't know he would do this.' This may not be a popular idea just now but give it a year or so.
There‘s little (no?) point in a contest where the outcome was known 3 months before the contest was called. And the media will bitch whatever Labour does - let them. Labour should just get on with the job of running the country while the windbags windbag.
I'm a Burnham sceptic but having the contest for the sake of having a contest and having party members choose is an exercise in extreme vanity. In the British settlement, the PM is the person who commands the confidence of the MPs, not the bloody members.
Labour will regret having turned on Starmer.
As a now ex-member of the Labour party, I am very angry I have not been given the opportunity to have a say in who leads the party. If there was to have been an election, I might have reinstated my direct debit, but not now.
This is a no win game...neither way good & the RW & media will be picking holes whichever way seeking an election. Whichever way more important Burnham creates an integrated politically, economically, socially progressive democratic vision for the Country looking to reform not Reform within the EU.
Sadly it seems he's been promised a job and he probably knows he wouldn't have the numbers. Jones would have been my choice
Put Darren Jones in charge of Comms. The man kissed the blarney stone.
After what the media has done to SKS , no-one in their right mind would want that job.
A significant issue is if there is no challenge on the central point - does chasing the most conservative quarter of the electorate and alienating the most progressive half work as an electoral strategy, or does it simply validate and empower the right. Any fule kno the answer.
Carns needs to stand. I don't think anyone else would be able to get the support.
But would a faux competition be even worse? Jones as chancellor to Burnham PM might provide Blair-Brown balance as opposed to the No.10 / 11 hegemony experienced over the past two years.
This is where Starmer gallops back to London, to save us......?
Senior cabinet minister Darren Jones has ruled out running for Prime Minister and has endorsed Andy Burnham for the Labour leadership. www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw...
He’s been lent on Burnham too scared to face the members -might lose for a third time
Seems like Starmer's prefernce is for a direct handover. There are good arguments in favour of this and in favour of a contest. Considering the desperate state of the country, plus that Burnham would prob. win anyway, I'm tilting towards this. But, it's uncomfortable to think he won't be tested.
Didn't get enough support? Private Eye below. Does the Labour Party and media realise they are satirising themselves?
The way he spoke with Beth Rigby was as impressive as ever. She wasn’t even a bitch as he gave her absolutely nothing to bitch about. He comes across as thoughtful and honest.
Labour and the country needs talent like Darren Jones in the cabinet. Although, I could improve his comms.
what the fuck is wrong with UK Labour dudes, why do they all look like this
UK Labour has secretly developed TRANSMETROPOLITAN'S 'Bastard Farm' technology, and kept it for themselves.
At least this one isn't pulling the same face. If he does he'll blend in immediately. Currently he's only distinguishable as the one with teeth
the most honest answer is for class reasons you can't so much as get elected as dog catcher for the tories without going to private school, so if you're an ambitious middle managing briefcase wanker you joined Labour. this look is Cheeky Nandos Chic
I did very much enjoy Darren Jones' reasoning for not standing this morning ("The reason I'm not doing it is because it's a waste of time and I would never win") which honestly, I respect.
I'm against it when people do the Kremlinologists out of a job by just going for the obviously truthful 'I'm not running because it would be a bad idea'.
I still think he's a twat, but he's a twat with a measure of self reflection so I have to nod in approval in his general direction.
youtube.com/watch?v=9cVq... Darren Jones showing why many wanted him to run for PM..straightforward, pragmatic answers. But this Burnham coup is too well ingrained for him or anyone else to fight, & it seems members' views are irrelevant. A fait accomplis.
I hope he stays in politics Tracey. He’s excellent. Definitely a future PM. But he’s right about Burnham, the momentum is all with him and he won’t fight that. He knows it would be futile and is putting country first.
This interview also confirms to me he should be the next leader leader after Burnham, in about 2 years time when we’re ready to go to the country and the Parliamentary Party has found its collective mind again.
It doesn’t feel like there’s much of a Labour leadership contest at the moment. It feels like those running the Labour Party have just chosen a man to replace Starmer because he’s become too unpopular to continue.
Have they acknowledged what it was that made Starmer unpopular?
That’s a fair summery. There’s talk of a coronation. Unless Labour take time to analyse what went wrong they’ll just do it again.
For us scots nothing will change no matter who’s is in charge in England or what party it is. The only way things will get better in Scotland is when we have full control of everything
Be interesting if a left winger steps forward and messes up the coronation.
The crazy thing about the Labour Party is like yes (as a non member) I would like to see a contest where Burnham is forced to defend his platform but then the options are... Darren Jones and Al Carns? ????
Like ok they've repudiated socialism or whatever, but like they can't even allow say a Stella Creasy to have a go? Or Miattah Fanbullah? They can't let one (1) socially liberal centre left woman come who might challenge some of the current orthodoxy. What's the point then?
it's sort of funny to compare this to 2007 where there was *a lot* of discourse around Brown and his platform, and the decision to not challenge was in itself an indication of support for that platform - while here it's all a bit cultish?
Yeah, it would fundamentally just be a complete waste of time against either or both of them, like it would achieve nothing bar delaying the inevitable
So Darren Jones is not standing. Burnham is already picking his cabinet. He hasn’t told anyone his plan except he’ll borrow wildly, no member was allowed to vote for the the new leader. Everyone happy with democracy dying before your very eyes?
I don't know what, if any the precedents are for this, but if it's been done before it shouldn't have been, just like now. Burnham will not be the safe pair of hands my country needs, & indeed already had with Starmer. He'll have to earn my continued vote, but I'm not paying to subsidise this stuff.
Such a shame and as soon as that's officially announced I'm off, hell mend them all.
Absolutely raging Burnham is gonna walk in,no ask of the members,no ask of the public and no ask of fucking anybody except his ego That ain’t democracy and I don’t care if it’s in the ‘rules’ My vote meant nothing I know we vote for a party but you want the leader to be someone you want. Fck labour
I’m not happy with the situation but the last thing the country needs is in fighting, the only thing to come out of it is would be a Farage government.
I do think it is too soon for Darren Jones just yet. Hopefully he’ll be ready to step up and pick up the pieces after Burnham, if there is anything left.
If the Labour party wants this change of leadership to renew their popularity so they can hold on to power - literally all they seem to want - I would urge them to look carefully at what’s happening to the Democratic party with the DSA right now. Embrace the left now, while it’s still your choice.
All the commentary I’ve heard from the political class over the last few days - about this not being fair to Starmer, or that Burnham might not be ‘sensible’ enough - is genuinely delusional. Starmer is gone because his ideas were unpopular. His faction aren’t the authority on success - far from it.
I just don't see how Labour can ever achieve anything good again when every key figure in the party and its leadership are obsessed with nothing but retaining power and maintaining status quo.
"Are you seriously considering running?" "I think I'm pretty serious about this. This is not about me, this is about the seriousness of this country." Victoria Derbyshire asks ex defence minister, Al Carns MP, about a potential challenge for the Labour leadership #Newsnight
I'd never even heard of this guy until a couple of weeks ago, but I have to say, I've already heard too much from him.
It's important to include this nasty hit job on one of his constituency's (many) Green councillors by Al Carns when considering him for next Labour leader. The Daily Mail has corrected + deleted their piece completely. Times also clarified theirs Al Carns still has his version up (debunk in 🧵)
Good I hope he does Burnham needs a challenge
Fair point - let’s see a range of candidates & get polling from the wider UK electorate & see Burnham & others under scrutiny. Can still be a new leader by conference. If Burnham wins - fine. What’s he afraid of? People seem to think a quick Westminster stitch up won’t be noticed by this country?
Any idea if he's ex-Marines? He never mentions it
No chance. A performative resignation to bring down a decent man does not make a patriot. Al has found himself on the same side as Reform, Farage, Musk, Yaxley Lennon and Putin this week. Fool